Friday, September 10, 2010

Left-wing attempts to understand Quran burning and Cordoban Mosque

Left-wing Blogblather has taken exception to several of the things I've written recently about the Cordoba Mosque.

Previous Lawrence: "...that fact is troubling when we think about this Cordoban Mosque being built where it is."

Blogblather: It's not a mosque, Lawrence.

Lawrence: Really? When is a mosque not a mosque? Oh yes, when the Mosque facility includes other things. A church with a basketball court or a playground for kids, by this standard would not be a church. I know Rauf and the Left try to downplay the fact that the Cordoba Mosque is a Mosque in order to take the victory sting out of it. But is that really working, Billy? But perhaps you have forgotten that Rauf is naming this Cordoba Mosque after the original Cordoban Mosque In that case you should read about the Mosque Rauf is naming the new one after: the Great Mosque of Cordoba:

Previous Lawrence: "Lefties and pacifists are undoubtedly in favor of giving in to this bullying."

Blogblather: Undoubtedly???? Well then, no sense in discussing this. But I'd suggest that most Lefties put the Constitution of the United States over rightwing fears.

Lawrence: Billy forgot to keep my words in context. Here is the context: "In effect what Rauf is saying is that if they don't go ahead and build the Ground Zero Mosque right where it is, then lots of Muslims are going to throw tantrums, scream invectives against the U.S., kill some innocent people, and blow up a few things. Lefties and pacifists are undoubtedly in favor of giving in to this bullying. I think that is a mistake."

Note, Billy, that at the highest level, Lefties and Pacifists are indeed giving in to this very bullying: Consider the words or our president: "Look, this is a recruitment bonanza for Al Qaida. You could have serious violence in places like Pakistan and Afghanistan." The president also said Jones' plan, if carried out, could serve as an incentive for terrorist-minded individuals "to blow themselves up" to kill others. I hope he listens to those better angels and understands that this is a destructive act that he's engaging in," the president said of Jones." This is according to AP News at;_ylt=AgjNSXaz3hIUIfpxo4v_BwZH2ocA;_ylu=X3oDMTJwbmRrN2tyBGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwOTA5L3VzX3F1cmFuX2J1cm5pbmdfb2JhbWEEY3BvcwMzBHBvcwMzBHNlYwN5bl90b3Bfc3RvcmllcwRzbGsDb2JhbWFpbXBsb3Jl:

Obama is saying the very thing I'm referring to, Billy: We'd better give in to what the bullying terrorists want or "lots of Muslims are going to throw tantrums, scream invectives against the U.S., kill some innocent people, and blow up a few things." That is what Radical and Traditional Muslims do, and what you Left-wing and pacifistic do is give in to them, Billy.

Previous Lawrence: "Do we in the U.S. really want to live in the 21st century? If so we need to enforce our views about tolerance."

Blogblather: I laughed when I read this. Then I realized you were serious.

Lawrence: Okay, maybe I should have explained some things I thought were obvious: Insofar as Islam insists on living in accordance with the Sharia which was created in the Seventh Century, they are not living in the 21st century. Radical Islam and, indeed Traditional Islam insist that they intend to live in accordance with this 7th century standard. Read reports around the world about beheadings, the stoning of adulterers and the lopping off of hands. Strict adherence to the Sharia demands such actions. I have read the Sharia and found it rather shocking that Rauf declared America to be a "Sharia compliant state." We are not a Sharia-compliant state. Neither are we a Christian-compliant state. We believe in the "separation of church and state." Does Rauf believe in the separation of Sharia and State? It doesn't sound like it. I wouldn't think an atheist like you, Billy, would find this a laughing matter.

Previous Lawrence: "If we get in the habit of giving in each time intolerant Muslims threaten us with their rage and violence then we have a sorry future to look forward to."

Blogblather: I think it's more an Constitutional issue than cowardice, Lawrence. Have you ever heard of the First Amendment?

Lawrence: Billy, read your president's words. He wants to infringe Terry Jones First Amendment rights because of what people in other nations might think and do. Obama sent the FBI to Terry Jones house. How Constitutional-compliant is that, for crying out loud? I frankly don't get "right-wing fear" out of what is going on. I see Left-wing and Pacifists doing what they do best, cave in to intimidation:

Previous Lawrence: "Another inference to be drawn from Rauf's "fears" is that we as a nation no longer have the backbone to stand up to threats"

Blogblather: What a bizarre comment. The United States military has been continuously engaged somewhere in the world since 1941. Unfortunately most of the engagements have not been in response to threats, but threatened others.

Lawrence: Read the above comment a little more carefully, Billy. It is Rauf's fears that I am drawing an inference from. He is more concerned about what his fellow Muslims might do than about what Americans might do. The military isn't in this particular equation. He doesn't see American citizens rising up in any sort of serious threat against his Mosque. He does however see his fellow Muslims rising up as they have time and time again in 7th-century-rage.

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